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Because he had the high ground...

Posted By: FerrosBecause he had the high ground...Never go with a hippie to a second location.

Posted By: DramDude, OW! (In the words of the poet, "this bit goes on for like five minutes,").

Posted By: Arcys
This is why I shouldn't have Photoshop.

Oh, wait, Star Wars? You mean a mash-up of "The Searchers" and "Dune"? What? >.>

Posted By: Arcys

Posted By: DramDude, OW! (In the words of the poet, "this bit goes on for like five minutes,").

This is why I shouldn't have Photoshop.We were bareley seventeen and we were barely dressed!

This is why I shouldn't have Photoshop.We were bareley seventeen and we were barely dressed!This made my day!!!

The world needs more Photoshop like a song needs more cowbell.

Anyway...one wonders why Obi-Wan didn't try to tug the massively amputated Vader back with him for some much-needed reeducation.

Oh wait, that's right...the sight of him with Padme would be way too hyperemetic for anyone to bear. Or maybe he was hoping for a shot at her once she popped the kid.

And c'mon folks, if Obi-Wan had saved or killed Anakin we wouldn't have gotten the fantastically awesome scene of the creation of Darth Vader where they turned him from cape wearing bad arse to emo whiny bitch. Seeing Darth Vader scream "NOOOO" or whatever it was at hearing about Padme's death was easily one of the worst parts of the prequel series. That scene was just terrible.

Posted By: Ferros... emo whiny bitch.

Ya know, I'm getting sick and fucking tired of all the noobz whining about the prequels, especially when they follow it up with a reactionary filibuster about how the originals were near-perfect and Lucas has lost his mind and sold out and yoda yoda yoda.

As one who was old enough to remember the saga from the beginning, I just wanted to chime in and point out that the first three movies also had their share of cheesy scenes, overabundance of and overreliance on SFX, commercialism out the yin-yang, etc. The only difference is 1) they came first, and 2) they'd been allowed to sit in our collective conscience for 16 years before the next follow-up. My suggestion is for the reactionaries to quit whining about what they did not get and spend more time trying to figure out what GL intended. After all...THEY'RE HIS MOVIES! No, you may not claim ownership of these movies...not yours!

Only George may eat the proverbial Pop-tarts!!!

*sigh* Okay, rant mode off.

Posted By: Arcys

Posted By: Ferros... emo whiny bitch.

I'll tell everyone about how much of a whiney bitch you were about Padamame, or Padamume, or whatever her name was. Now get your six foot five asthmatic ass back here or I'll...

Also, WHAT THE HELL IS AN ALUMINUM FALCON?!We were bareley seventeen and we were barely dressed!

Just to clarify, that rant wasn't directed at anyone in particular; I'd like to think I've evolved past the base dispersion of Internet bile by now.

@Seandalf I've gotta disagree with you on a couple of points there. Regarding the commercialism that's a debatable point, at the time of the first trilogy merchandising on that scale had never been seen before. Gotta give George Lucas credit on that, he did insist on retaining control of licensing rights for products and so forth and you could say that's where he made the most of his money from the first trilogy. So to say the first trilogy had commercialism built into it i disagree, the success of the movies allowed them to create the toys and lunch boxes that created the world of the movie toy tie in. For the prequels the toys were created before the movie was even out, i remember going to a Toys R Us for a midnight launch of figures and stuff (My friend is a mad collector, not me!) before the phantom menace even opened, the first trilogy the desire for merchandise happened naturally, it wasn't forced on us from the word go.

Also on the claim they are GL's movies i emphatically disagree, when something is created that is so loved, so soaked into an entire cultures consciousness, it no longer remains the property of the creator. We all have a vested interest in Star Wars and its continued existence because we love it so much. I can't speak for anyone but myself but i want to see it succeed i'm happy to give George Lucas my money if he's creating the best product possible but he's not because he can't step away from it and see that he does as much harm as good. He's not a good director, he's not a good script writer, on both counts he's quite clumsy and heavy handed. You can't blame Lucas for the poor casting choices in Christansen and Portman, but their poor dialogue and wooden acting that's all on Lucas' head.

We all remember the original trilogy through rose coloured glasses. Yes it was cheesy and dumb in alot of places but we've all matured, it would've been nice to see the same from Lucas and his ideas. Yes Star Wars are essentially kids movies, and maybe we're all to jaded and cynical but the prequels stink of trying to hard to capture lightning twice and it stings to see something you love being so mishandled.

Also no bile here, i just love healthy intelligent debate. It has to be possible in at least one place on the internet, doesn't it?

Okies, first of all I think that kids/family movies are essentially the best genre of films EVER as they have something for everyone! Star Wars are EASILY some of the best films ever created! Along with classics like Indiana Jones, Gremlins etc awesome films like those :D

Also, however much ppl say that they're true fans and therefore don't like the prequels they still saw them and own them and still know exactly what happens in them and everybody's names and stats etc. Its like that Simpsons episode where comic book store guy thingy w/e his name is goes to see the prequel loads of times. Granted, the new films weren't AS good, but they were still GOOD. Just like Indiana Jones 4 was MENTAL and full of cheesy one-liners and shots of him pickin up his hat BUUUUUUT it was still an enjoyable film.

They're just my thoughts. I proper bum Star Wars. Lolz.
xxx

Revenge of the Sith was on TV last night. I ended up watching bits and pieces of it and some really frustrating things stuck out to me. Lucas did a pretty good job of tying up lose ends so that they lead into Episode 4 well enough. After the infamous and awful "I have the high ground" moment Obi Wan picks up Anakin's lightsaber and walks away explaining how he has it in Ep. 4, Captain Antilles (Presumably Wedge Antilles father), a few little moments here and there with Bail Organa. All the stuff i appreciate when you're building a mythology.

I assume everyone remember Yoda's famous line "Do or do not, there is no try." from Empire. There's a moment just before the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan when Anakin says "You're either with me or you're against me." With Obi-Wan's reply being "Only Sith deal in absolutes." To me doesn't this clash with Yoda's statement a fair bit if absolutes are Sith talk why is Yoda using them, that's just sloppy writing when in other minor cases Lucas covered himself pretty well. Don't even get me started on Yoda's fleeing from the final battle with the Emperor, i know we need Yoda on Dagobah and the Emperor alive but the character they'd established for Yoda doesn't lend itself to self pity which you clearly see when he's escaping with Bail Organa talking about failure. When Yoda walks into the chamber with the Emperor he's very much in a "It's you or me" type of mood, why does he run away?

Posted By: FerrosRevenge of the Sith was on TV last night. I ended up watching bits and pieces of it and some really frustrating things stuck out to me. Lucas did a pretty good job of tying up lose ends so that they lead into Episode 4 well enough. After the infamous and awful "I have the high ground" moment Obi Wan picks up Anakin's lightsaber and walks away explaining how he has it in Ep. 4, Captain Antilles (Presumably Wedge Antilles father), a few little moments here and there with Bail Organa. All the stuff i appreciate when you're building a mythology.

I assume everyone remember Yoda's famous line "Do or do not, there is no try." from Empire. There's a moment just before the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan when Anakin says "You're either with me or you're against me." With Obi-Wan's reply being "Only Sith deal in absolutes." To me doesn't this clash with Yoda's statement a fair bit if absolutes are Sith talk why is Yoda using them, that's just sloppy writing when in other minor cases Lucas covered himself pretty well. Don't even get me started on Yoda's fleeing from the final battle with the Emperor, i know we need Yoda on Dagobah and the Emperor alive but the character they'd established for Yoda doesn't lend itself to self pity which you clearly see when he's escaping with Bail Organa talking about failure. When Yoda walks into the chamber with the Emperor he's very much in a "It's you or me" type of mood, why does he run away?Never go with a hippie to a second location.