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Posted By: Kristi

Right there with you! I repeat, I can has flowchart/timeline?

Your wish is my command....

http://www.screenjunkies.com/recap/bsg-recap-no-exit-flowchart-included

I think last night's episode was the only real clunker of the season.

Gods damn it. This is on the Hulu site:

Availability Notes:
Episodes 13-17 will be posted on Hulu the day after their TV broadcast. Subsequent episodes will be posted 8 days after their original broadcast date.

Meaning I won't be able to watch last night's episode (legally) until next week. Must be a Cylon trick.

I don't know what it means that this thread hasn't been touched in about 3 weeks or so. Does that mean everyone else has found these last few episodes as underwhelming as i have? Except for the newest episode where Adama finally mans the F up it has been pretty lacklustre.

There's a reason why the term used to describe BSG lately is "driving with the emergency brake on".

edit: Flanked, that is dumb. That means you can't even catch up before the next week's episode. You know what? Watch Dollhouse instead. :-D

Im just hoping they are screeching to a hault in preparation for a crazy balls out finale. I will say Ive been pretty bored for 4 eps or so.

Posted By: joelIm just hoping they are screeching to a hault in preparation for a crazy balls out finale. I will say Ive been pretty bored for 4 eps or so.Artist and Creator of HijiNKS Ensue

I think I've gotten so fan-boyish over BSG that they could show 42 minutes of Olmos massaging a spiral cut ham with glaze and a creepy look on his face, and I'd still be pissing myself.

He needs to use calculus to show the Cylons the error of their ways. That poetry is just another way to rap.

HOW can I reach these keeeeeds!

Posted By: John DarcHe needs to use calculus to show the Cylons the error of their ways. That poetry is just another way to rap.Move over, bananas! I've got a new source of potassium!

The Cylons would simply use bullets to show him the error of his humanity.

And then the robots invaded the planet. And the name of that planet, WAS EARTH! Don't date robots!

"There are two kinds of racism..."

Posted By: Dram"There are two kinds of racism..."I want to be a cowboy again, Marcelle.

Soooo, what did we think of the finale?

I thought the finale was brilliant. It was very complete in my opinion, I didn't see many holes that still needed to be addressed. I'll admit I was bawlin like a baby for the last third.

Posted By: FrackTruckI thought the finale was brilliant. It was very complete in my opinion, I didn't see many holes that still needed to be addressed. I'll admit I was bawlin like a baby for the last third.

Spoilers (highlight to read)

I have hated Tory since the moment she was introduced and was soo satisfied to see Chief break her stupid neck. But I have to give her credit, she is responsible for breaking the cycle. Personally I thought the whole throwback to our modern time was done very well, and a complete curveball to me.

Meh, really really meh. Such a stinking cop out. "God did it" "It's God's will" God this, God that, God, God, God... Wish they'd had a better budget for a bigger space battle.

Jumping the god?

Posted By: John DarcAdama's soliloquy to Roslin's grave at the end killed me, as did the clip of him carrying her and the clip of Lee standing in the field after Kara left forever.

I thought the finale was great. I cried like a baby. This was actually the first finale in a long time that I was actually satisfying. It was complete without spoon-feeding everything.

I think it was pretty well implied that the cycle is not over and we are doomed to repeat it again.

not my intention to be a buzzkill, just wanted to know if anyone else was kind of disappointed; don't get me wrong, most of it was gold, but i think the last 5 minutes got preachy and could've been cut; also, maybe i wasn't paying close enough attention to the past episodes, but this one seemed to cut a few corners on the cgi; then again, it is on a tv budget

@Eutychus couldn't agree more. the first part was above amazing, but the end was kinda angering.

I was quite disappointed myself. Maybe I'm just spoiled by Whedon series finales, but I felt it was too much of a shiny happy ending. Don't get me wrong, there were quite a few things I enjoyed, but overall, yeah, disappointed.

TV Guide interview with Ron Moore about the ending and what it all means, etc. Be warned, spoilers be here! http://www.tvguide.com/News/Battlestar-Galacticas-Ron-1004256.aspx

I don't think it really matters to RDM if fans liked it or not. He obviously had a message he wanted to preach (Don't date robots!, electrogonorrhea, etc. etc.) and he's stated that it was "the finale he wanted to make".

And I had heard somewhere that they had been saving their budget for the finale, so if the finale was lacking, that's really a shame.

what i love about the show is that they could bring up current events, as well as religious/political issues, but they did it with subtlety. when they came out in the end of the finale and pretty much said it all, it felt like i was being insulted as a viewer, like i could not figure out what messages they were trying to get across unless they spelled it out for me.

The last 20 minutes or so left me feeling dirty and unsatisfied.

I didn't buy the going tribal aspect at all.

I thought it was a cop out. Plus didnt anyone noticed that the dispersion of the last humans was similar to Noahs Ark and how he dispersed his kids though out the world after the flood. It was a little unintentionally racist as well, poor stupid black people in Africa who cant write and speak need white people and white angels from space to show them how to be civilized.

Posted By: core1065I thought it was a cop out. Plus didnt anyone noticed that the dispersion of the last humans was similar to Noahs Ark and how he dispersed his kids though out the world after the flood. It was a little unintentionally racist as well, poor stupid black people in Africa who cant write and speak need white people and white angels from space to show them how to be civilized.

Wasn't the show a vaguely allegorical religious thing all this time anyway? I kept hearing about how this show is about Mormons.

Posted By: John DarcWasn't the show a vaguely allegorical religious thing all this time anyway? I kept hearing about how this show is about Mormons.Move over, bananas! I've got a new source of potassium!

Posted By: Dram

Posted By: core1065I thought it was a cop out. Plus didnt anyone noticed that the dispersion of the last humans was similar to Noahs Ark and how he dispersed his kids though out the world after the flood. It was a little unintentionally racist as well, poor stupid black people in Africa who cant write and speak need white people and white angels from space to show them how to be civilized.

That doesn't seem very racist to me, I mean that IS where we came from, and we WERE all black, and we DID have less conventional language.I want to be a cowboy again, Marcelle.

Pardon me stewardess, but I speak jive.

Posted By: SeanPardon me stewardess, but I speak jive.I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

Weird and convoluted Theory

For your viewing pleasure I've put the bizarre images in question up on my Stumbleupon:
http://rodartist.stumbleupon.com/blog/

Okay, you know the Cylon head we briefly see as it is dug up on bombed-out-Earth? Its primary difference from any other existing Cylon head is it's much larger face-grill (or whatever Cylon anatomists call it). Supposedly this Earth-based-Cylon model is based on the earliest concept images of what the new show's Cylons would look like. However, while reading about an auction of movie props I stumbled upon an image of a Cylon costume used in "Beverly Hills Cop III", and the resemblance seemed uncanny. (Far closer to the Earth-Cylon head than the concept art in question.)
Apparently Beverly Hills Cop 3, has afinal chase scene that takes the characters (is that Judge Reinhold in the shot?) through the old "Earthquake" ride at
Universal Studios, which for the film was inexplicably outfitted with Cylons. This was possibly an inside reference to "The Nude Bomb", staring Don Adams, in which a chase takes the characters through a BattleStar Galactica ride.
Thing is, Beverly Hills Cop III didn't use the Cylons from that movie, or from the original ride, or from the origonal BattleStar show. They apparently had brand new Cylon suits custom made for the scene, sporting those larger than standard face-grills.
I guess what I'm asking is this: Could the Earth-Cylon head be a really well-hidden joke reference to an Eddy Murphy film? Or am I starting to see the
earliest signs of schizophrenia?
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Posted By: SeanPardon me stewardess, but I speak jive.I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

BSG on bluray. FRAKING AWESOME!
BSG on Blu Ray in July

Sorry I'm late to the party (and by "party" I mean "being a fancy bastard").

Anyways, the finale really pissed me off. Well, pretty much everything after they touched down on Earth pissed me off, but the finale especially. For a good chunk of the series, we've been told how important Hera is. "She's the savior of humanity!" "She's the savior for the Cylons!" "Turns out Jesus was a 1/4 Korean girl from 150,000 years ago!" wait, maybe not that last part....

But anyway, Hera is supposed to be vitally important. Then the finale happens, and they're on Third second Earth. Two things happen that completely undermine her supposed importance.

1) Everyone from the fleet does their own thing. For Helo, Athena, and Hera, that means just those three going off and leaving everyone else behind. So, Hera's so important that her presence is completely unnecessary for humans, Cylons, and native species alike.

2) When they cut to the future, the news shows "mitochondrial Eve", a little girl's skeleton embraced by the skeletons of her parents. So Hera died when she was apparently quite young. Possibly immediately after the three of them parted ways with the rest of the fleet.

In the end, it seemed like her existence was inconsequential. And that's on top of everything else that frustrated me (God did it, Starbuck's a poltergeist, etc).

It makes you almost want Edward James Olmos' ending.

"So they get back to Earth, and everyone is cheering and happy that they finally made it back, and then the President orders the alien ships from the sky to be shot down."

Posted By: jeffro-tull

Sorry I'm late to the party (and by "party" I mean "being a fancy bastard").

Sorry, Dram. It happened well over a week before I made the post, so I figured it was fair game.

Posted By: jeffro-tullSorry, Dram. It happened well over a week before I made the post, so I figured it was fair game.

Posted By: joelPost Spoilers all you want but with the "spoiler black box." If the show, has already aired give everyone at least a week to catch it on their Tivos. After a week I say it's fair game unless the discussion warrants otherwise (ie everyone is talking about catching up on the Buffy DVD's, then dont post any spoilers without the tag).

If its a movie, I would use tags for at least a good 3-4 weeks.