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Fringe: awsome or rotten
  • photozzphotozz September 2008

    Just watched. No spoilers yet, but I liked it. If I had to put my impressions into one sentence, it would be:
    Just like X-Files, season one.

    discuss.

  • Mike+BradyMike Brady September 2008

    Yeah I'd agree with the comparison to early X-Files. Which is, of course, not a bad thing. It's a little strange that nobody is concerned about all the giant text floating in the air, though; I spotted at least one clear fire code violation. It gets a "like" from me so far - if it shows it has a little stamina I think it could earn some love.

  • SeanSean September 2008

    Yeah, photozzz summed it up pretty well there. And I also agree that it's not a bad thing. Yes, my wife and I had a full conversation about the letters, and how there must be massive magnetic fields constructed to keep them floating in mid-air, wondering if birds routinely fly into them, if Harvard acquired a grant to pay for theirs, etc. It also looks like

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    the expected JJ Abrams show's ARG is starting at massivedynamic.com


    If I had to pick out one thing to gripe at, and it's really a case of me *looking* for something to criticize, it bugged me a bit that
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    a man's dying breath was dedicated to a riddle, instead of information.


    Feels good to break out the spoiler boxes again. :-)

  • Not+MandatoryNot Mandatory September 2008

    I am leaning towards "loved it". I'm sure everyone noticed the weird things on the images before each commercial break (Too lazy to use spoiler boxes, hence the extreme vagueness) and I had a feeling they were gonna ARG it up for this one as well. I'm resisting so far. My husband gave an interesting X-Files comparison (and he was a HUGE fan of the show, mind you). According to him "This is what The X-Files WISHED it was.) A glowing recommendation if I ever heard one.

  • photozzphotozz September 2008

    I just hope this does not turn into another series where i have to dedicate a wall for collecting clues and huge pictures of the cast that I connect with string and crazy theories. I just want a show I can sit and watch for a change and not have to try and remember that ten second scene from four shows ago cause its terribly important to the narrative.

  • joeljoel September 2008

    Im giving it a solid "liked enthusiastically" and "eagerly await next episode" with a side of "this might be great but I'm not throwing my hat in just yet.

    I was really surprised how much I liked Joshua "Pacey" Jackson" I especially enjoyed the performance the father. Excellent casting all around. Production values were high and yes, it was very reminiscent of early X-Files. Im hopiong they stick with science and leave out the aliens.

    Spoilery Question:

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    Giant corporation that's using the whole earth as a lab? JJ seems pretty fond of this idea since he's used it as the backbone for two series now.

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  • MelkorMelkor September 2008

    I have to admit it has my interest, and I will be watching the next episode.
    Considering the age I was when the X-Files were on TV though, I don't have much to compare it too,
    other than the few episodes I managed to sneak a glimpse at.

  • John+DarcJohn Darc September 2008

    Man, the people at Whedonesque REALLY didn't like this show.

  • joeljoel September 2008

    Posted By: John DarcMan, the people at Whedonesque REALLY didn't like this show.Move over, bananas! I've got a new source of potassium!


    Well it's missing two key things that they consider necessary for good tv. Joss and Whedon.

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  • Not+MandatoryNot Mandatory September 2008

    Posted By: joel
    Posted By: John DarcMan, the people at Whedonesque REALLY didn't like this show.Move over, bananas! I've got a new source of potassium!


    Well it's missing two key things that they consider necessary for good tv. Joss and Whedon.Artist and Creator of HijiNKS Ensue


    You are not wrong sir. I imagine if a Whedon alum to guest stars they'll be on board in no time though.

  • John+DarcJohn Darc September 2008

    It's got a Whedon. Zack Whedon.

    Though I think he's a half brother.

  • John+DarcJohn Darc September 2008

    I'm listening to the podcast right now, and I think Josh has a point about Anna Torv's bad acting. At least in the melodramatic parts.

    Also, I'm not particularly sure about

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    why John was a "bad guy". He threatened Steig and told him not to sell the poison, or so Steig/the tape was saying. So he killed a potential terrorist. Why is this bad? He didn't try to buy poison. He threatened to treat Steig like Steig did to his brother.

  • EddieEddie September 2008

    I enjoyed it thoroughly. Tickles my sci-fi thriller fancy.

  • FlankedFlanked September 2008

    So, I hear people talking about this, and I'd like to see what it's about. But, I don't have cable or an antenna for my TV.

    Anyone know of a legal way to catch this show short of watching at someone else's house?

    Fox.com has it streaming. Nevermind.

  • SeanSean September 2008

    Hulu FTW on this. Actually, Hulu FTW on pretty much everything. I want to have sex with it in it's sexual orifice analog.

  • BillBill September 2008

    Josh and I finally watched this last night. I have a few minor quibbles, such as

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    It was completely predictable that John would be questioned and possibly reanimated.

    It's piqued my interest, though.

    Posted By: John DarcI'm listening to the podcast right now, and I think Josh has a point about Anna Torv's bad acting. At least in the melodramatic parts.

    I think it was pretty bad acting all around. It falls into the category of "try this one on for size." I wish they'd pulled a Whedon and reshot the pilot after getting comfortable in their characters' skins.

    "Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into your brain, and that's where you get shitty ideas from." - Unknown
  • 15step15step September 2008

    Put me in the "it was awesome" camp. I can't believe I'm cheering on Pacey again after all these years. I don't think Anna Torv is a bad actress, I just find her character really boring. I hope they fix that soon. I wish I could listen to the podcasts around here. They always slow down my computer to the point of uselessness.

  • Mike+BradyMike Brady September 2008

    Posted By: 15stepI don't think Anna Torv is a bad actress, I just find her character really boring.

    Yeah I'm with you on that. I re-watched the pilot and I thought her acting was fine but her dialogue was lacking. Pacey, on the other hand, isn't comfortable enough with "snarkiness" yet. His snide comments toward his dad were too forced to be funny.

  • SeanSean September 2008

    I'm with Bill on this one. Torv and Jackson are unsteady, but I think *ALL* of the acting is a bit off. Not enough to ruin it, because the stories so far are just too enjoyable. Nobody seems comfortable, and that just takes me out of the suspension of disbelief, and reminds me that I'm watching actors playing roles. Hopefully the scripts will continue to be good enough to overlook the acting though.

  • joeljoel September 2008

    Posted By: 15stepI wish I could listen to the podcasts around here. They always slow down my computer to the point of uselessness.

    You can directly download them and listen to them locally. You dont have to stream them if that's whats killing your machine.

    <Bill>Fixed the spoiler</Bill>

    Geek Cartoonist. Creator of HijiNKS ENSUE
  • EuripedesEuripedes September 2008

    I really enjoyed the show, but I was completely caught off guard with it. It came on, and I was expecting the new season of House. Everything seemed right... until those faces melted off. Once that happened, I knew "Ok, this is something else." That aside, I really enjoyed it. Joshua Jackson plays the "Douchebag-yet-Caring" role well ( I never watched Dawson's Creek, this might just be the same character." I thought it was well-written also. Just realistic enough to be believable, just far-fetched enough to get away with crazy shit. Overall, I'd say B+ maybe an A-. My one complaint? They moved House to 8 and didn't tell me.

  • John+DarcJohn Darc September 2008

    I still don't get what I spoiled up the page. Am I missing something?

  • EuripedesEuripedes September 2008

    I guess you technically ruined the reveal. You know, the whole "John did the poison" thing. Maybe I'm wrong though.

  • John+DarcJohn Darc September 2008

    wasn't me

  • photozzphotozz September 2008

    Posted By: joel
    Posted By: 15stepI wish I could listen to the podcasts around here. They always slow down my computer to the point of uselessness.

    You can directly download them and listen to them locally. You dont have to stream them if that's whats killing your machine.

    So.. I guess the spoiler box doesn't work in quotes, eh?

    <Bill>Fixed the spoiler</Bill>

  • Jonny+AceJonny Ace September 2008

    i broke my own rule with this show:

    i never watch a new show until it gets picked up 4 a 2nd season. so far i've found Fringe enjoyable, but luckily i haven't fallen in love with it. if i had it would already be canceled. i'm willing to give it a try, but i'm not going to put much energy into it.

  • Not+MandatoryNot Mandatory September 2008

    Posted By: Jonny Acei broke my own rule with this show:

    i never watch a new show until it gets picked up 4 a 2nd season. so far i've found Fringe enjoyable, but luckily i haven't fallen in love with it. if i had it would already be canceled. i'm willing to give it a try, but i'm not going to put much energy into it.Mal: Well look at this..appears we got her just in the nick of time what does that make us? Zoe: Big Damn Heroes! Mal: Ain't we just.


    Well dammit, you better NOT fall in love with ANY of the shows I love then! ;)

  • Jonny+AceJonny Ace September 2008

    hehehehe, which are the ones you love? (not just really like)

  • Not+MandatoryNot Mandatory October 2008

    That would be telling.

  • photozzphotozz October 2008

    Brick Tamland: I love... carpet.
    [pause]
    Brick Tamland: I love... desk.
    Ron Burgundy: Brick, are you just looking at things in the office and saying that you love them?
    Brick Tamland: I love lamp.
    Ron Burgundy: Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
    Brick Tamland: I love lamp. I love lamp.


    Now.. replace "Lamp" with "Fringe" and your pretty much inside my head. I do love lamp though. This week was better than last week. We are starting to see the deeper plots emerge. I'm happy.

  • joeljoel October 2008

    Much like with LOST, 3 eps in and Im already ready for a little explanation. I hope they dont drag this "Walter knows a LOT that he isnt telling" stuff on for the whole season.

    Geek Cartoonist. Creator of HijiNKS ENSUE
  • Not+MandatoryNot Mandatory October 2008

    Posted By: joelMuch like with LOST, 3 eps in and Im already ready for a little explanation. I hope they dont drag this "Walter knows a LOT that he isnt telling" stuff on for the whole season.Artist and Creator of HijiNKS Ensue


    I'm just waiting for him to go missing so I can hear Pacey yell "WAAAAAAAAAAALLLTTT!" a la Michael.

  • Greg2point0Greg2point0 October 2008

    I really like Fringe, it's one of the few new shows that I'm actually pretty excited about, along with True Blood (although I don't know that I actually like True Blood. I think I just want to like it, but still want to keep watching to see if it gets awesome).

    Like Joel said Joshua Jackson is actually enjoyable and does a good job as Peter.

    After the last episode (episode 4) it looks like they are getting into something bigger.

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    The bald guy is totally and alien, hence the jalapenos, excessive amounts of pepper, and raw meat sandwich.

  • SeanSean October 2008

    If this show ends up being about aliens, I'll be pissed.

  • joeljoel October 2008

    i really don't want aliens on this show at all. Depends on how they handle it.

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  • BillBill October 2008

    Posted By: Greg2point0After the last episode (episode 4) it looks like they are getting into something bigger.
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    The bald guy is totally and alien, hence the jalapenos, excessive amounts of pepper, and raw meat sandwich.

    When the show opened with that scene, I thought,
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    "If I wanted to watch Roswell, I'd watch Roswell."

    The more of this show I see, the less impressed I am.

    "Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into your brain, and that's where you get shitty ideas from." - Unknown
  • photozzphotozz October 2008

    Posted By: Greg2point0I really like Fringe, it's one of the few new shows that I'm actually pretty excited about, along with True Blood (although I don't know that I actually like True Blood. I think I just want to like it, but still want to keep watching to see if it gets awesome).

    Like Joel said Joshua Jackson is actually enjoyable and does a good job as Peter.

    After the last episode (episode 4) it looks like they are getting into something bigger.
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    The bald guy is totally and alien, hence the jalapenos, excessive amounts of pepper, and raw meat sandwich.
    NewGeekontheBlock.com


    I don't think so.
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    I think its going to be more of a genetic experiment. He appears human. It might be a culmination of experiments and that sort of thing.

  • DramDram October 2008

    I thought ep four was decent, by itself, but I am operating under the assumption that

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    The observer only SEEMS to be an alien, an assumption that I hope does not come back and bite me in the ass. As long as they don't drag out the HOMG GUYS LOOK AN AYLEYEN thing or the ZOMG GUYS LOOK THE SEECRETTS WITHOUT EXPLINASHUN any more I may remain enamored.

  • SeanSean October 2008

    Posted By: Dram[SPOILERS]

    I would be totally fine with that. So far the plot has me hooked, so I can ignore a lot of the other elements.

  • photozzphotozz October 2008

    It took me a good ten minutes into the debates to realize I was not watching Fringe. McCain just looks like a freaky part of the pattern to me. I expect his back to split open and we find two Vietnamese solders in there who don't know the war is over yet.

    I want my lamp.

  • photozzphotozz October 2008

    Fringe last night was not bad. Had me on edge. Wool socks. Oh and ...

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    Did anyone else see the bald man getting off the elevator just before it crashed? Although the scientist in me keeps yelling at thinks like imprinting his magnetic signature on audio tape.

  • Not+MandatoryNot Mandatory October 2008

    Posted By: photozzFringe last night was not bad. Had me on edge. Wool socks. Oh and ...
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    Did anyone else see the bald man getting off the elevator just before it crashed? Although the scientist in me keeps yelling at thinks like imprinting his magnetic signature on audio tape.
    My Funny


    I saw that too. Also I totally called
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    The "His consciousness is in her head" explaination.

  • DramDram October 2008

    Posted By: Not Mandatory
    Posted By: photozzFringe last night was not bad. Had me on edge. Wool socks. Oh and ...
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    Did anyone else see the bald man getting off the elevator just before it crashed? Although the scientist in me keeps yelling at thinks like imprinting his magnetic signature on audio tape.
    My Funny


    I saw that too. Also I totally called
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    The "His consciousness is in her head" explaination.
    Book: If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of Hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

    That had me a little confused. I could understand if she was just creating approximations of his behavior, but he's leading her to things. Is it due to unexplained science, or are we just assuming she suddenly knows how he thinks and (il-)logically knows all his secrets?

  • BillBill October 2008

    Posted By: DramThat had me a little confused. I could understand if she was just creating approximations of his behavior, but he's leading her to things. Is it due to unexplained science, or are we just assuming she suddenly knows how he thinks and (il-)logically knows all his secrets?

    Josh had the idea that...
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    ...he's been reanimated by Massive Dynamic (who were oddly absent this week) and is being telepathically projected into her head.

    "Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into your brain, and that's where you get shitty ideas from." - Unknown
  • DramDram October 2008

    Posted By: BillJosh had the idea that...
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    ...he's been reanimated by Massive Dynamic (who were oddly absent this week) and is being telepathically projected into her head.

    Right, see I was thinking along those lines, but when you watch the scene where Dr. Walter is explaining to her his theory about the appearances, the background music, camera work, and entire tone seems like he's revealing some shocking explanation, but his idea just doesn't make sense.

  • EddieEddie October 2008

    I was less impressed by Fringe after the appearance of

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    the Observer. Looks like the "in" thing to do on TV is to steal from Marvel, ie "The Watcher".

  • joeljoel October 2008

    Just to clarify, JJ has stated that Baldy has appeared in every episode so far. Something for the season one DVD buyers to check out.

    I'm a bit worried that the show is sticking to hard to the "House" formula:

    Fringe- Random paranormal thing happens to random guy
    House- Random Medical thing happens to random guy
    F- FBI calls in the Fringe team because they are the only ones that can solve the case
    H- Patient goes to see House because he's the only one that can solve the case
    F- The team does some detective work, Walter suggests something crazy, Pacey doesnt believe it
    H- The team does some detective work/ tests, House does something crazy, patient isn't quite saved
    F- Walter remembers that he invented the thing that's killing whoever 20 years ago and develops an unorthodox but genius solution
    H- Something clicks in House's head and he develops and unorthodox but genius solution
    F- The day is saved (for now) but there is still unexplained danger out there, we get a glimpse of the over all story arch but no one experiences any real growth
    H- The patient is saved but House is still an asshole, we get a glimpse of the over all story arch but no one experiences any real growth
    F- An hour entertained but not engaged or enthralled
    H- I think you get the idea.

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  • John+DarcJohn Darc October 2008

    But Fringe hardly has the gay subtext of House.

    That's right. House and Wilson.

  • DuderDuder October 2008

    Im more concerned with it going the way of Lost, formulaic I can handle. By the 3rd? episode I could totally see it going that way, "Oh look an alien, awesome"

  • Jonny+AceJonny Ace October 2008

    my problem is that i don't want every episode to be Walter knowing how the "incident" could have happened due to hie work 20 yrs. ago.

  • BillBill October 2008

    Posted By: Jonny Acemy problem is that i don't want every episode to be Walter knowing how the "incident" could have happened due to hie work 20 yrs. ago.

    Agreed, agreed, and agreed again. I can't agree any more emphatically.

    "Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into your brain, and that's where you get shitty ideas from." - Unknown
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