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If we can avoid any and all mentions of Connor it'd be super, that character was so poorly handled and was definitely the beginning of the end for that show. But to counterpoint that, seasons 3 and 4 where he was most heavily involved were easily the best of the show. How could you not love that rooftop battle with the Beast.

Let us not speak of Connor. He was Angel's Dawn, as far as I'm concerned. As far as characters go, I'm all about Lorne. Lorne ftw.

I would like to throw in a special mention for Harmony, she was great on Buffy but i think she really hit her stride in Angel as the secretary. Criminally underused.

Posted By: FerrosI would like to throw in a special mention for Harmony, she was great on Buffy but i think she really hit her stride in Angel as the secretary. Criminally underused.

Posted By: FerrosIf we can avoid any and all mentions of Connor it'd be super, that character was so poorly handled and was definitely the beginning of the end for that show. But to counterpoint that, seasons 3 and 4 where he was most heavily involved were easily the best of the show. How could you not love that rooftop battle with the Beast.

Season 5 was gold.

"I do not have puppet cancer!"

Posted By: John DarcSeason 5 was gold.

"I do not have puppet cancer!"Move over, bananas! I've got a new source of potassium!

Season 5 definitely is the best. Then again a lot of the Buffy crew got to work on that season so I feel you can definitely chalk it up to that.

I totally dug the

It was pretty amazing.

What's worse of the three shows? Buffy getting to run its course, Firefly dying in it's earliest days, or Angel getting cancelled right when it finally seemed to get out of the shadow of Buffy?

Then i must be the only person who thought season 5 of Angel was the weakest. I didn't really have a sense of focus until the last few episodes, there were to many little story arcs that were started and ended in an episode or two. I just didn't enjoy it as much as i did the earlier seasons.

It was more so casual fans could jump into it.

Also, no Connor=large amount of win.

edit: also, that line from "Why We Fight" is still relevant today. "You don't win a war by doing whatever it takes. You win by doing what's right."

Posted By: John DarcWhat's worse of the three shows? Buffy getting to run its course, Firefly dying in it's earliest days, or Angel getting cancelled right when it finally seemed to get out of the shadow of Buffy?Move over, bananas! I've got a new source of potassium!

Firefly never even got a proper shot so it definitely came off the worst of the three. You can tell Fox didn't like it immediately because of the way they mishandled the pilot, it's like they wanted it to fail.

Posted By: FerrosFirefly never even got a proper shot so it definitely came off the worst of the three. You can tell Fox didn't like it immediately because of the way they mishandled the pilot, it's like they wanted it to fail.Never go with a hippie to a second location.

I'm watching season 1 on Hulu currently. I'm only through about the first 4 episodes, and have only chuckled once, and that was a modified "your mom" joke - the kind of joke I can't help but chuckle to. I really hope this series hits some sort of stride before I get entirely bored of it. Please convince me to continue watching. I need completion to get the full geek cred out of this - it's like an xbox achievement.

Posted By: FlankedI'm watching season 1 on Hulu currently. I'm only through about the first 4 episodes, and have only chuckled once, and that was a modified "your mom" joke - the kind of joke I can't help but chuckle to. I really hope this series hits some sort of stride before I get entirely bored of it. Please convince me to continue watching. I need completion to get the full geek cred out of this - it's like an xbox achievement.

Alright, I just got through a quite humorous episode about eating Doyle's brain (guest starring the Fed from the FireFly pilot) and a time-warp Buffy guest star one off. Those two will buy enough credit with me to get to the second season whenever I can torr... er, purchase DVDs legally at my local retailer.

Posted By: FlankedAlright, I just got through a quite humorous episode about eating Doyle's brain (guest starring the Fed from the FireFly pilot) and a time-warp Buffy guest star one off. Those two will buy enough credit with me to get to the second season whenever I can torr... er, purchase DVDs legally at my local retailer.

God! I was forced to sell ALL of my Angel DVD's except for season 1 and I also sold my Buffy seasons 2 and 7 last year. Damn my lack of fiscal rsponsibility! I keep waiting for the box sets to go on MEGASALE somewhere...you know, when I actually have some money.

I really got into Angel in season 5, so my view is skewed. That being said, I liked what I've seen of Angel. Pylea wasn't bad.

I always digged the Fred. Fred was made of amazing. Although she was more amazing as bad ass smart Fred.

And Darla did, does and always will rock hard core.

Fav episodes are defintaly "Spin The Bottle" and "Smile Time"

"I do not have puppet cancer!"